Great that you saved lots of $$$ doing the repair yourself! Most electric motors, including the furnace blower motor, have a reset switch that pops up when this happens. Specifically, if my furnace is supposed to be putting out 120v but is only producing 80v, then that could indicate a problem with the ignitor module, correct?! Below are pictures to help you identify the difference in a flame sensor and a hot surface ignitor. Thanks! I would also suggest that if you have a fuse on the control board or transformer that you check the fuse out to make sure it is good. This furnace has an intermittent pilot light system. LP gas furnace gas pressures should be set with a manometer and have someone who if familiar with working on LP furnaces. We sell furnace limits on the following page: The furnace’s control board might not be supplying the voltage to the ignitor. You can bypass the thermostat by turning the power off to the furnace then joining the R and W wires together with tape or twist them together. You can use an ohm meter to check the ignitor to make sure it is good. The part number for the DSI is 43K3101. Top Five Reasons Your Furnace May Not Be Igniting 1. Merry Christmas! I am getting a fault 34. When I look through the view port during one of these failed cycles I see the igniter glow for a couple of seconds and then go off. Thanks! Hi Lawrence! Sorry that I can not be of more help or give you any other advice. Everything is just about what to do when it won’t light. I checked the pressure switch and I cleaned the igniter. When it first started up the Igniter did nothing, so I assumed it might have gone bad. Have issue today with ignitor on a Rheem criterion. Please make sure all your wire connections are good and tight, test the ignitor to make sure it is good with an ohmmeter (40 to 90 ohms), make sure your safety controls are all closed. I looked at my house’S control panel and the breaker was tripped. Thanks much, Steve! We Have Promptly Shipped Over 350,000 Orders Since 2002! Hi Mark! If all the safety controls are closed then I would check to see if you are getting 110 volts to the ignitor when it is supposed to be glowing. Then, remove the front panel to find the ignitor or ignition sensor. The thermocouple needs to get hot first, but theoretically, your furnace should start to work now. Top Five Reasons Your Furnace May Not Be Igniting. If you find that your furnace is not igniting at a time when you need it most, try these easy fixes first in an attempt to get your heating system up and running in a short amount of time as possible. The furnace not working after jumping the limit could be a control board problem or an open rollout switch, pressure switch problem. Seems to be popular. I ran the parts and the igniter suggested is 80v. Hi Victor! Another thought would be to make sure that if your thermostat has batteries, make sure the batteries are in good condition. I hope you find and fix the problem soon! $22 vs a $150 quote. Hey, I have a Goodman Furnace Model GMP100-4. ... my G40UH(X) series won't ignite when adjusted from the thermostat. Hi Shawn! We would love to have your business! If any of the safety controls are open then the control board will not allow the ignitor to glow. Then, remove the front panel to find the ignitor or ignition sensor. It could be caused by a bad ignitor relay on the control board. If this is the first time you're attempting to light your gas furnace this season, it is important to know that a furnace ignition with a standing pilot light may take a while to light depending on the length of the gas line and how long it takes the fuel to reach the pilot light. Copyright © 2021 Assured Comfort All Rights Reserved. Hi Scott! Steve, I replaced my ignitor and it did not glow so I replaced my board as well and still nothing. Not sure how fast it should go though. Don’t know if its as easy as a bad thermostat not sending the correct heat request… please help, Hi Carlos! Yes, the ignitor should glow and you should be getting power to the ignitor probably 30 seconds to a minute after the draft inducer closes the pressure switch. Just to be safe before I purchased an expensive control board I would suggest trying a new ignitor. Call now or click on the button below to schedule a service today. Fires on the west coast have caused several states to post air quality advisories to limit outdoor activity. It still wont glow. OUR COVID-19 PROTOCALS In the process of removing the burner tubes, I also had to remove the flame sensors and put them down onto the metal housing while the power was still on. David, Hi David! When the call for heat comes in, the induction fan starts and does successfully close the switch. You might need a new control board. No sir, if an ignitor is bad the furnace will not shut down completely. Steve. I have also cleaned the flame sensor. I would like to suggest that you make sure the pressure switch hole is unobstructed. This means the furnace has failed to ignite. I hope you can easily find and fix the problem. If I turn off the power and was a few minutes it usually comes back on. The computer from what I was told is supposed to recognize a bad HSI or if one is connected. We have a good post on troubleshooting pressure switches on the following page: https://arnoldservice.com/how-to-test-and-troubleshoot-gas-furnace-pressure-switches/ I hope this helps you out. Basic Troubleshooting. Not sure where to go …. God bless you and your family today and always! My furnace is not performing the igniting sequence (3 cycles of igniting followed by inductor blowing and then lockout in case igniter does not glow). It would be best to send this information to our arnoldservice@gmail.com email address. Modern gas- or oil-fired furnaces have several safety sensors that check on furnace operation. I hope you can easily find and fix the problem. If you are getting 24 volts to the gas valve and it is not opening up to allow gas to flow then you probably have a bad gas valve. Thanks! Solution: You probably need to purchase and install a new ignitor. I have tested both hot surface igniters on the other unit and they both work (both glow). Hi Tracy! Our furnace went out at -31 here in Wisconsin…luckily we also have a wood stove. Any gas furnace uses a pilot light to trigger the burners to heat your home. I tightened all the breaker screws and we have not had any problems. Required fields are marked *. I would think that you have an airflow problem that is not allowing enough air through the heat exchanger to keep your furnace running at the right temperature rise. Occasionally, the motor won't come up to speed. The ignitor never glows, it goes through the start up sequence but the ignitor never kicks on. The furnace will come on (humming noise) but the pilot light won't ignite (no heat). I would suggest that you use a volt and ohm meter to check to make sure all the safety controls are closed. What steps should I take to properly diagnose the no power issue? Make sure all registers are open and unobstructed. We have lots of furnace troubleshooting advice on the following page: https://arnoldservice.com/gas-electric-furnace-troubleshooting-simplified-2/ I would suggest going through the troubleshooting flow chart to see what is wrong: https://arnoldservice.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/furnace-troubleshooting-flow-chart.pdf We also have lots of troubleshooting questions and answers on the following page: https://arnoldservice.com/furnace-troubleshooting-questions-answers-index/ If you have any specific questions please let me know. I hope you can easily find and fix the problem. If one of the sensors reports an unsafe condition, the furnace controller shuts off fuel and power to prevent unsafe operation. I looked up the parts for your furnace in our Lennox parts program and it shows that your furnace uses a DSI (direct spark ignition) and not a hot surface ignitor. Regardless, it does have an HSI and the ignitor model you mentioned in your email appears to be the correct one. This video shows how I fixed my LENNOX FURNACE that did not want to start (burners failed to ignite error). I hope you can easily find and fix the problem. Steve. If it is neither of these reasons causing the issue, try turning the fan switch to "on" to force the furnace to start blowing air. The electronic ignition system has broken. I am guessing that when the load of the ignitor is applied that the contacts inside the ignitor relay on the control board are pitted and bad thus the ignitor can not get enough current to glow. Arnold’s Service Company, Inc. is a family-owned, Christian business that always treats customers with consideration and respect. I would make sure that you are getting 24 volts AC between W and C (common) when your thermostat is calling for heat to be ON. God bless you. Keep this in mind when the frustration hits. Up to 95% AFUE and a multi speed blower motor provide energy efficiency and consistent comfort. If they’re okay, I should have a new board by Thursday morning. Hi Dustin! This is what I see in the furnace sequence of operation: 3. I hope you can get the problem found and fixed soon! The gas heat should come on by joining the red and white wires together. If you want me to look up parts please send me you furnace’s product number to our email address: arnoldservice@gmail.com and I can look up the control board or any other parts you would like for me to find part numbers for. If your ignitor will not light up then this could be caused by many different problems. If all of those check out good then it almost has to be a control board. Where you stop getting the 24 volts is where the problem is located. Seeing that I power cycled it again to see if it would reset and work on its own. Steve. The fan motor comes on immediately instead of the system going thru the normal process. Steve. Our ultra low NOx furnace designed for California brings the heat during winter with proven reliability and a 65% reduction in NOx emissions compared to a standard, low-NOx model. Problem: Furnace will not ignite. We have a furnace troubleshooting flow chart: https://arnoldservice.com/furnace-trouble-shooting-flow-chart/ and many questions with answers and videos on the following page: https://arnoldservice.com/furnace-troubleshooting-questions-answers-index/ I hope you can easily find and fix the problem. We have lots of furnace troubleshooting advice on the following page: https://arnoldservice.com/gas-electric-furnace-troubleshooting-simplified-2/ I would suggest going through the troubleshooting flow chart to see what is wrong: https://arnoldservice.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/furnace-troubleshooting-flow-chart.pdf We also have lots of troubleshooting questions and answers on the following page: https://arnoldservice.com/furnace-troubleshooting-questions-answers-index/ If you have any specific questions please let me know. I a keeprite furnace with orange blinking light. So I went to the furnace and nothing was happening. More than likely the ignitor relay on your control board is bad. Another easy way to tell if the gas is on and working properly is by starting another gas burning appliance, like the stove. Steve. If all the safety controls check out OK (closed) then you probably have a bad ignitor relay on the control board and you will need a new control board. Hi Jeff! I am glad I had an extra ignitor and pressure switch on hand. You can test the ignitor with an ohm meter to see if it is good or not. As luck would have it, we are headed for 30 degrees this weekend. Steve. Assuming your furnace has been properly maintained, the problem is most likely a very simple fix that will not require the help of a professional. Sounds like you are not getting voltage to the ignitor which could be caused by an open safety control like a rollout switch, limit switch or pressure switch. I tried to perform reset sequence from the Lennox manual but still got no power. If your furnace is going off on limit I would suggest making sure that the blower motor capacitor is in good condition, make sure that your evaporator AC coil is not stopped up on the underside, make sure that your gas valve pressure is adjusted properly to produce the furnace recommended temperature rise. I checked in our Trane parts program. Coronavirus Update: We care about your health and continue to service our customers safely. After 3 times the furnace goes into lockout, and the only way to get it out of lockout is to turn the power switch off and on. If the power going to the ignitor is a constant 120 volts when it is supposed to be glowing and the ignitor is going off and on then this is an ignitor problem. It involves turning the power to your furnace off, checking the basic elements of the furnace, and waiting a little bit before turning the power back on. Please see the pictures below to help identify the difference between a flame sensor and a furnace hot surface ignitor. If the ignitor is staying on then you probably have a stuck relay on the control board. You should get 24 to 28 volts AC between each of the two terminals on the rollout or limit to ground. I was working on a Trane unit model number TUH2B080A9V3VA, and the hot surface igniter is not glowing. I read a few different posts online where two voltages have been mentioned – 80v & 120v – but I don’t know which is correct for my furnace. You would need to test with a voltmeter to see where you stop getting the 24 volts. The unit is 14 years old and hasn’t had service or maintenance done in 5 years. Here is a link to that page: https://arnoldservice.com/gas-electric-furnace-troubleshooting-simplified-2/ I hope this helps you out. First check to make sure the furnace filter is clean and has been recently changed, then be sure to make sure all vent registers are clear of furniture and other blockages. About the only way to tell where the problem is would be to test the controls with a volt meter. You help would be greatly appreciated. Some transformers and furnaces have fuses on the transformer to protect the transformer. Please be careful and check the wire connections on the breaker to make sure they are good and tight. Maybe some ice got into the vent pipe or the combustion air vent pipe. CODE: Two LED flashes. I cleaned the ignitor when it was doing this a few weeks ago and it started immediately. Steve, I have an older York central furnace, gas, that I installed in 1999. Thanks! This time it does get a little warmer, but only a 1/4 of the ignitor is orange. This is probably the most common malfunction in gas furnaces. At least I eliminated the fuse factor. I would strongly suggest that you make sure that the fuse is good on your control board and make sure you are getting 24 to 28 volts AC between the R and C (com) terminals of your control board. Hi Steve, Thank you for responding. Yes, if the limit or any of your rollout switches are open then the open switches will not allow the ignitor to glow. Put the front panel back on, turn on the gas, and then turn the furnace back on. Several breakers started tripping for no reason. I have cycled the unit several times, heard the click as if the gas valve opened and still no ignition. Remember each time, a new limit switch solves the problem for 3 weeks. - Furnace repair service heating installation HVAC ac repair heating rebate Hot Water Tanks, Boilers BC Furnace Vancouver Burnaby Surrey Coquitlam Richmond Skip to content Call Us Today (604) 704-0300 | Emergency Services | prompt service is our #1 commitment | info@romaheating.ca Please help, I would recommend checking to see if you are getting 24 volts to the gas valve when the gas valve is supposed to be opening. Please send your model number to our email address at arnoldservice@gmail.com. Steve, I have a luxaire furnace model #g9t06010upb13c that keeps burning out ignitors continuously. Steve. 3. Thank you. Could it be the contro board or is it possible that it is the igniter? I had the ignition switch replaced and went to bed happy that it was working. After the cleaning job, I reinstalled everything back but then the furnace and the thermostat had lost power. What am I missing here. New ignitor solved the problem. I would suggest that you call a company that has a good reputation with working on and fixing LP gas furnaces. What do you think is wrong. Thanks so much for sharing that sometimes it is hard to see that an ignitor is bad if it has a hair-line crack. Since you ignitor has such a low resistance then I do not know really what to think. Steve. Blower does not run in on position. We have UPS Ground, Next Day Air Saver, 2nd Day Air, 3 Day Select and UPS Sure Post shipping options in our shopping cart. If you are not getting 24 volts to the gas valve then you could have a bad control board or and open limit or rollout switch. This sounds like you might have a loose connection or a control board problem. We have a pretty good trouble shooting flow chart and what to look for on our Furnace Troubleshooting Simplified page. Did I get the wrong ignitor or is there a problem elsewhere? Steve. I’ll order one and compare it to the existing to ensure it’s the same dimensions, because I don’t want to install one which doesn’t align correctly and have problems caused by using an ignitor which isn’t positioned correctly in the gas flow. Probably the contacts inside the relay are welded together. The main blower coming on before heat concerns me also. Hi Mr. DeGuilio! Thanks! Disconnect the hot surface ignitor from the control board and measure the resistance. I have a Heil furnace, model NUG5150BKB2. I tested the pressure switch today and it is good. The limit as I am sure you know is a safety control that should only be used to shut the furnace off if your furnace over-heats like in that case that a blower motor failed. Inside the unit is extra clean, as was filter. I’m trying to fix a Trane furnace (sorry I don’t have the model number) with a White Rodgers 50A50-571 Control Board. You could also have a control board problem that is not allowing current to the limit. I checked the pressure switches for continuity and they all perform according to design. A pressure switch that is not closing could also be the problem. Please Click Here to see the name brand Furnace Ignitors. Schedule Service Today. I would suggest checking all safety control with a volt meter and pressing down on the reset buttons (if equipped) on every rollout switch. Steve. I can jump the switch and it has no power to the switch, all the fans remain on, (blowing cold air). We have a furnace pressure switch troubleshooting page that I hope will help you find and fix the problem. I hope that you can find and fix the problem soon! Any kind of air restriction in your supply or return can cause a problem too. I hope you can easily find and fix the problem. The issue may be with the furnace itself, but it also may come from a number of other sources. 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